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Advice on attending groups

1. I know it is scary, but do try to go to groups where you can receive feedback, it will be worth it most of the time to help your writing be as best it can be.

2. Remember that the comments are about the words, and not you. Sometimes we think we have put certain things in a piece of work that aren’t clear for a reader, and by listening to the responses of people you can decide what may need adding to work, or taking out.

3. Remember time is precious in a group where everyone is there to receive feedback on their own poems also, and try not to get defensive and justify your choices to people (or go into why you wrote the poem at length), as these explanations won’t be there on the page, and don’t need to be heard. If something happened a certain way in real life, remember that this doesn’t mean the writing has to stay this way, and be prepared to fictionalise and alter your work (even when autobiographical) to make it stand as a piece of writing. Also,

4. Avoid the temptation to apologise or explain the piece of work for feedback as you hand it round (the reader needs to come to the piece in its own right, and make discoveries for themselves, which will not be present when it is read without you there to explain.) This is a hard one, because if we feel a piece of work is flawed we want to apologise and explain.

5. Don’t be afraid to ask questions about feedback. Instead of spending your precious group time talking about why you did the poem, or defending it, use the time to ask questions about what they have said about the work (do you think it will work if I put something like this in? would that change the tone do you think? Whatever will be useful to you.)

6. Take the work you have that you feel needs feedback the most. There is no point in taking a piece of work you consider to be perfect and completed, as it will only annoy you if negative comments are made, and you will feel reluctant to change the work anyway which is a waste of everyone’s time.)

7. Be aware that there will always be members in a group who never say anything about your work whatsoever. Try not to get annoyed by this (I know it can happen, particularly if you always make a point of trying to give constructive feedback to them.) Remember, just as not everything you read is something you would want to read again, everyone has different tastes and interests (and there are some people who your work won’t appeal to, and this is not necessarily a reflection on the quality.) Sometimes I have said nothing about something’s work, because I don’t feel anything in it needs changing.

8. Do thank members of the group whose comments you found helpful for their insights. (Remember, giving feedback isn’t an easy thing to do, and there are issues of trust in any group, you are putting yourself on a limb by bringing work, but people who give feedback that challenges work are also doing so, and it is these comments we often find the most helpful and that a good group thrives on.)

9. Often people’s opinions will contradict one other, and it can be difficult to know what to do with this (and people make comments we just do not agree with.) When I first started writing I would try and use all comments, and would often re-write things again and again according to the latest set of comments, even when I felt I liked what I was doing the first time. I ended up going back to work years later and changing many of these elements back, because they didn’t feel true to what I intended. If you are good at taking feedback, and are usually grateful to hear it, you will have times when you are surprised because a comment on your work just seems wrong. When we are new at writing is difficult to know who to listen to. Use feedback where you can and it helps, but learn to know when to ignore it. As a rule I would say if I know why I have done something a certain way deliberately, and have reasons within the context of the work behind it (which are valid ones), it is at these times that I can choose to not use other people’s suggestions (without being in danger of being precious about the work.) Ultimately this is your work, and sometimes you have to listen to yourself.

Please let me know any advice or tips you find useful as a writer, and I will include them here.

 
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